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the xfinity store is here. and it's simple, easy, awesome. you're watching cnn on this monday. i'm brooke baldwin. here's the breaking news. michael avenatti, who represented stormy daniels is now facing federal charges in california and new york. prosecutors in new york are expected to announce wire and bank fraud charges against this map. this after he was just arrested in new york today in a separate case and accused of trying to extort $20 million from nike. nick watt and cara are following
this pr us. so kara, i'll beginning with you or nick, you're there in l.a. but kara, to you. so two cases. all of this coming down on him on one, in one fell swoop today. why don't we start with what happened in new york. >> so he was arrested just a short while ago in manhattan according to multiple law enforcement officialses. he was charged in new york with an extortion crime. prosecutors allege that he tried to extort nike of more than $20 million. unless they agree to hire him to represent them in an ongoing investigation, he said he would go public with this information. now according to the complaint, prosecutors said that michael avenatti said i'll go take $20 billion off your client's market cap. i'm not iffing around and continuing to play games. you guys know enough know that you've got a serious problem and it's worth more in exposure to me to just blow the lid off this
thing. he apparently had a client who had damaging information b about nike, that would show officials were offering to pay high school students dollars and also conceal those payments. now this is what avenatti wanted to get hire d if and they're saying this is all part of on extortion scheme. prosecutors cooperated. they were recording meetings that he was having in new york just last week. so prosecutors in new york are pechted to have a press conference afternoon, but prosecutors in los angeles also filed charges against him involving bank and fire fraud. >> things as recent as last week. that's the news out of new york. over to california to nick as we await this news conference. totally separate set of charges and case. what ha what are you learning? >> well, this is going to be a
federal press conference regarding federal charges as you mentioned, brooke, also california charge, which i'm just reading now and these appear to be related to so i'm going to read you just part of this. reading there is probably cause to believe that between 2011 and the president, avenue natti committed federal offenses included but not limited to fraud related offenses relating to loans avenatti and his company obtained from the people's bank in mississippi and wire fraud and money laundering relating to 1.6 million settlement payment they received in january 2018. as we mentioned at the top of this, we are going to hear ten or 15 minutes from federal authorities here in california, avenatti himself is in new york, but he is a lawyer licensed to practice here in california and listen, as you say, he has made
himself front and center of so many cases recently he was involved representing a woman who claimed she had been assaulted by brett kavanaugh. he was involved in the r. kelly case. he has been a vocal critic of president trump and now it looks like he has a lot of charges piling up against him. we're going to find out more details on that very, very shortly. here in los angeles. >> we'll dip into that. thank you. we'll talk on the other side. we'll talk to you as well. i want to get to this mueller report. this four-page letter from the attorney general signalling the end of the mueller investigation and likely the start of a whole new political battle. "the washington post" sums it up this way. republicans cheer. democrats challenge mueller's findings on trump and russia. quite a change from what we've heard from both sides for the last two years. here is first the view from trump world now, which has gone from denouncing witch hunts to
tout iing the special counsel's findings. >> lasted a long time. we're glad it's over. a 100% the way it should have been. >> in cataloging the president's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that in our judgment, that rosenstein and barr, constitute obstructive conduct. that's a complete exoneration by the attorney general and rod rosenstein. >> they made a decision there was no b obstruction so that's total exoneration. >> couple of things to point out here because according to a cnn source was a whole mix of talking points the white house sent out to surrogates last night. more importantly, bob mueller did not write that. it was bill barr and the deputy attorney general who decided there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute trump for objection strzok, but mueller is less definitive. here's an excerpt from the letter. the special counsel states that
quote while this r report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. and one more thing on the barr letter, it is his summary of the mueller report. most lawmakers, the general b public and even some in the white house haven't seen the full thifinckthing but u if jerr gets his way, they will. >> president trump is wrong. this report does not amount to a so-called total exoneration. the attorney general's comments make it clear congress must step in tho get the truth and provide full tranz pasparencisy poth american people. let's go to laura jarrett in washington who i'm sure has been working since 5:03 friday afternoon. amazing job. you have new report iing about when bill barr and rod rosenstein found out mueller would not be reaching a conclusion specifically on obstruction.
>> that's right. i have been asking since yesterday whether justice officials felt blind sided by the news that mueller would not be reaching a conclusion on one of the central ip qnquiries her. we're learning that roughly three weeks ago, the special counsel's office, members of the team, came here to the justice department. met with top officials here and conveyed the news they would not be reaching that conclusion. they conveyed it to bill barr as well as the deputy attorney general, rosenstein, who's been overseeing the investigation since he appointed mueller. so of course he's been involved all along. but i'm told that the attorney general bill barr found this news unexpected. he was not anticipating that mueller was going to punt the decision. we still need to do more. do more reporting on why mueller did that. it was best left to congress. maybe it was a political question. he felt like there was evidence on both sides according to the
memo. he thought there was a difficult issue of law and fact according to bill barr's restation of it and it's quoting the special counsel here, it does not con rate h exonerate him. but this new timeline at least explains how bar was able to hit the ground running. wasn't just that he had 48 hours to figure out what are muleellms findings. >> thank you. let's get to john, a former assistant watergate prosecutor and attorney. so, welcome, welcome, to both of you. john, let me start with you on laura's reporting on the three weeks. so if bill barr new three weeks ago that mueller would not reach a conclusion on obstruction, does that tell you? >> it puzzles me. bob mueller, that was his job. his job was he had all the resources. was to consider the facts an the
law and to make a recommendation or make a decision. and it's like a judge saying it it's a hard issue so i'm just not going to decide. but since he didn't decide and he gave notice, plenty of time, to the attorney general, somebody had to make a decision and the attorney general and rod rosenstein. the man who wanted to wear a wire on the president. they jointly made a decision that there was not obstructive conduct. >> and remember, we have the reporting that rod rosenstein wanted to stay on longer in case he needed to be the heat shield and so now we know that they knew for three weeks. to use -- >> probably why. this is probably why. >> there you go. to use the football analogy, all right, that my friend ali here gave me, my question is this. did, did barr intercept the mueller punt to congress? >> i think that the timeline and also barr basically coming to a
conclusion within 48 hours of reading this unspecified number of pages of this report suggest that that could be the case. i mean look, the part of the questions of law in fact which are involved here are a, whether a sitting president can be indicted and whether certain kind of behavior could also constitute obstruction and i think that mueller behaved very honor bly here by saying look, it's not for me to decide these questions. i provided you with evidence with i don't believe exonerates the president and i think that the natural venue to evaluate that would be congress. to see hey, look, yes. that congress would be the one to look at both sides, the evidence that he's found and to determine whether even if not as a criminal matter, as a political matter, whether it meets their threshold as they check on the executive branch. >> again, let's remind everyone,
bill barr, right, that 2017 memo, john, arguing that muel r mueller's obstruction of justice investigation wasn't aren'ted in the first place. do you think now thinking back to his confirmation hearing, do you think that's his biggest liability? >> i think that it's going to be, depends upon which side of the aisle you're on. i think how much credibility or trust we have in the integrity of bill bar. but i can't stress how important it is to me, any way, that it was a joint decision with rod rosenstein. they said so. but let me point out i respectfully disagree with one thing. the much more important part was collusion. and on that, bob mueller did take the bull by the horns and made a prosecutorial judgment. so mueller thinks he has the ability and it is his prerogative to make prosecutorial judgments, so why didn't he do it on the less
important part, which is obstruction. that remains to be scene. i think trans parn asy, i think we need to see the understood lying report and i think we're going to see very, very little of it. >> do you? because that's my whole next conversation. let me hold that thought because i want to get to that. but i hear you, you're puzzled on obstruction. crystal clear on collusion. just reminding everyone that despite 199 counts, 27 entities charged, 16 trump associates who had contact with russians and five people sentenced to prison, chen it comes to conspiracy and collusion, as republicans claim, does this truly remove the cloud of suspicious over the white house? >> i don't think it does because it doesn't explain the counterintelligence findings. these were prosecutorial findings and it may be that the level of contacts or whatever was happening didn't rise to the
level of conspiracy, which is a high bar. beyond a reasonable doubt of an explicit agreement which there was an overt act. but there are behaviors that can pose a threat to the national security of the united states. that can cause someone's tru trustwort trustworthyness to be undermined, loyalties to be questioned, which may not cross criminal violations and this is why with we have for example security u clearances. if someone is deeply indebt to another country or admires a hostile adversary and wants to imla emulate them, not someone we would put in charge of the most sensitive credits of the the country. i think we need to understand the nature of these contact, why were they being concealed evenen if they didn't rise to a criminal violation, i think the bigger story we need to find out b about. >> released a report, you heard mr. sail saying he thinks we
will not see a lot of the report and that would be a massive deal if not. do you not agree? >> i, you know, i feel like it is very hard to keep secrets in the u.s. government. and there will be a lengthy battle, but there will come a day whether it's after trump is out of office and you know, another party comes to power when they declassify this or release it. it will see the light of day at some point. and i think it's just a matter of when i think the question now is you know, are the, this is such a case of public import that the american public should have even if it's a redacted version, both an accounting of the findings on the counterintelligence side and the evidence that mueller found on obstruction. that he chose not to make a final decision on. >> john, what do you think of that? that it will have to come out? >> i think some of reasons it's not going to come out are grand jury secrecy and watergate.
to the judiciary committee, surprisingly, the nixon white house did not object to it. here, the attorney general is not going to do that. sektdly, ongoing investigations. there were numerous ones, that's a lot of information. and thirdly, national security matters and executive privilege, which is real. and the white house, it's not a sneak preview. they have a right to preview it. to determine whether or not they're going to exert executive privilege. if they do, it goes to court b, so that will be tied up forr. so if we see a document that's substantial and redacted, it's going to be extremely frustrating. we're not going to see it. i don't know b about some day, but we're not going to see it before the 2020 election and i regret that, frankly. >> yeah. wow. thank you so much for the conversation disagreement there on when we'll get our eyeballs
on this report. just ahead here on cnn, mueller may have concluded the report, but the special counsel wasn't the only one investigating the president. plus, attorney michael avenatti facing charges in two separate cases. in one case, he is accused of trying to expert millions and millions from nike. and as parkland, florida, is mourning the loss of two students who took their own lives in the matter of f a week, more tragic news today. the father of a child killed at sandy hook elementary school also dies of an apparent suicide. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. ♪ be right back. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be.
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flynn, his contracts with russia russians, what did they say. trump campaign. there's a lot here. i'm just going to go with the one that most people know. a lot of this is about the hush money payments that michael cohen said he made at the direction of donald trump. the southern district of new york said yes, we believe that to be theed these payments. we have the checks that cohen produced ed produced. that's that. like i said, there's a lot. trump organization, this a lot of this is from cohen's, not all, but from cohen's testimony in february. so he testifies and says well, i know for a fact that the trump organization overchallenexaggers assets, other deals like trump trying to buy the bills. i'm summarizing, there's more. trump foundation, my former colleague won the pulitzer prize for the work he did related to
donald trump's charitable organization because he was using it as a way to funnel money to things. it has been shut down. the investigation is ongoing. then the trump inaugural committee. $170 million raised? question is, where did it all get spent? there's an ongoing investigation into that, too. now who hasn't been,y ied it, b has been b charged with lying to congress and his conversations with wikileaks, hacked e-mails by the russians of the dnc and hillary clinton campaign chairman. he has not beenens issed. he's the first guilty plea. manafort, same deal. again, has been convicted, pled guilty, then broke his plea agroea agreeme agreement. same with rick gates.
there's still a long going on. trump did get a huge win on s d sunday. he can say no collusion and be backed be ag guy in mueller who spent ten years as head of the fbi who said is absolutely the most credible person out there in all this stuff. >> and because of that, there in lies the question, who's getting a pardon? that's another big one. >> he said no one yet. >> yet. >> chris cillizza. thank you. >> thank you, brooke. >> moments from now, prosecutors in new york will be holding a news conference on michael avenatti, who's charged with trying to expert nike. stand by. biopharmaceutical researchers. pursuing life-changing cures in a country that fosters innovation
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extortion, bank fraud, wire fraud. before we listen to these new york prosecutors, let's listen to prosecutors in california just moments ago. >> in december 2017, mr. avenatti negotiated a settlement for a client that involved in a intellectual property dispute. under the settlement, $1.6 million was due to be paid by january 10, 2018. at a meeting in his law office new port beach, mr. avenatti gave the client a bogus agreement that listed a later date march 10, 2018, as the date by which the payment was due. now $1.6 million was wired on january 5th to an account controlled by mr. avenatti. he then used his client's money to pay expenses for his own
coffee business. global barista llc, as well as to pay his own personal ex expenses. when the fake march 10 deadline came and went, the client asked mr. avenatti where his settlement money was. he never told him the money had arrived and between april and november of 2018, he quote unquote advanced $130,000 his client so he could meet his own financial obligations while he waited for the supposedly late settlement money to arrive. in essence, it appears mr. avenatti loaned the clipt's money client. money he had already secretly collected. to this day, nearly 15 months later, his client is still waiting for the bulk of his
settle. . >> so the crux of the, this case and the charges in which mr. avenatti faces there in california. that was the u.s. attorney there. we're waiting for jeffrey bermudae burrman and our former assistant is here with me and before we listen to jeffrey, one of the questions i was asking you is how the heck is this all coming down in one day. you're telling me in your case which just started a week ago. >> it's a term called decon flix that we use in law enforcement. new york developed a case on him that very quickly, very recently was happening fast. then you enter the name into the system. whatever the index is. looks like this is an fbi case and it will say boom, there's a hit. someone else has a case on this person, michael avenatti. i'm sure it hit off the california case. calls were changed. you have your case, we have our, they're separate, let's
coordinate and bring them out on the same day because if california arrests him first, it's going to ruin new york's ability to build their case. this is standard practice in law enforcement to coordinate for the same day. >> it's this extortion conspiracy, which is what he's facing in new york and then the extortion of nike for 20 million. we're going to get into that. again, we're about to hear from the u.s. attorney out of new york speaking. quick break. you andly continue this conversation. you andly continue after this break. we'll be right back. e're playing "four on four" with a barbershop quartet? [quartet singing] bum bum bum bum... pass the ball... pass the rock.. ...we're open just pass the ball! no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. yea. [quartet singing] shoot the j! shoot, shoot, shoot the jaaaaaay... believe it! geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
by threatening to use his ability to garner publicity to inflict financial and reputational harm on the company. his conduct had nothing to do with sellous advocacy for a client or any other legitimate legal work. instead, avenatti used illegal threats for the purpose of obtaining millions of dollars in payments for himself. he repeatedly pressured the company to agree to pay or risk
having him hold a press conference that he claimed would dramatically drive down the stock price of the company and its market value. as avenatti threatened in one recorded meeting, if the company did not meet his demands, the company might die but if not, it was quote, going to be inflicted with cut after cut after cut after cut. as alleged, the entire scheme played out in less than a week. he first met with representatives of the company last tuesday, march 19, manhattan. at this meeting, he said he represented a client who coached an amateur high school basketball team sponsored by the company which is nike. the team had recently lost that contract worth $72,000 a year, and avenatti claimed the coach had information about potential misconduct by employees at nike. the allegations of misconduct
were similar in kind to those that formed the core of a prior criminal prosecution brought by our office. that payments were made to families of high school basketball players. in that meeting, and in subsequent conversations that were recorded as part of our investigation, avenatti threatened to hold a press conference at which he would make these allegation public if the public did not agree to his financial demands. avenatti promised to forgo the press conference and allow the company to avoid financial harm if the company adprgreed to pays client $1.5 million and for avenatti himself, to retain him and another coconspirator to conduct a multi-million dollar internal investigation that the company did not request. avenatti made clear can that he was approaching the company at a
time intend ed to maximize the potential financial damage of such a press conference namely on the eve of the annual ncaa tournament and the company's quarterly earnings call. as he threatened on one call reported, if the company did not exceed to his demands, quote, i'll go take $10 billion off your client's market cap. in a record ed meeting the next day with representatives of the company, he made clear he expected to be paid up to $25 million with $12 million to be paid up front and deemed earnedearned when paid. when asked by a lawyer for the company why the company would agree, avenatti responded many substance that he had the company in a very vulnerable position where wipe out 5 to $6 billion of its market capital. when the company's lawyers resisted paying avenatti to
conduct an internal investigation, avenatti told the company, it could skip paying for an internal investigation if instead it simply paid him $22.5 million. then avenatti said he would quote ride off into the sunset. pressure and a sense of urgency were used in delivering these threats. as you can see from timeline, this all happened in a period of three days. on day one, march 19th, tuesday, this was the first meeting between avenatti, representatives of nike and the coconspirator. at this meeting, avenatti for the first time made his extortion demands and threats. following that meeting, representatives from nike called prosecutors to my office and
inform ed a office of the extortion of demands and threats made by avenatti. going forward, all interactions between nike representatives and avenatti were recorded and overseen by the fbi and my office. on day two, wednesday, march 20th, it was a r recorded phone call with avenatti, the coconspirator and representatives from nike where he again made his threats and demands. and on day three, there was a meeting which was recorded. on thursday, march 21st, last thursday, in which avenatti repeated his demands and threats and as you can see, graphically scribe described his hold on th company. at the end of this meeting on thursday, they agreed there would be one final meeting the
coming monday, which is today. and at that meeting, nike would either aseed to avenatti's demands or suffer the consequences. after that meeting, about two hours after that meeting, avenatti decided to turn up the heat on nike. he issued a tweet and it said, something tells me that we have not reached the end of this scandal and by scandal, he's talking about the college basketball corruption prosecution's brought by the southern district of new york. the scandal, it's likely far, far broader than imagined. why this tweet went out to the public, it was intended and designed for audience of one. this was michael avenatti's shot across nike's bough.
through the algtd course of conduct, he used legal terms like claims and settlements and retainers, but these were mere devices to provide cover for his extortion demands for a massive payday for himself. by endpangaging in the conduct alleged in the complaint, he was not act aing as an attorney, a suit and tie doesn't mask the fact that at its core, this was an old fashioned shake down. the charges announced today we flekt the hard work not only of this office, but our law enforcement office at the federal bureau of investigation. so my left is my good friend, bill. the assistant director in charge of the fbi's new york field office. i want to thank him and his team for their professionalism in see ing this investigation through. i want to acknowledge and thank the career prosecutors and agents in my office for their
role in the investigation and prosecution in this case. to my right is matt, robert, rob and their supervisor in the public corruption unit, edward. the talent and professionalism of these dedicated public servants is really extraordinary. our legal system, our system of justice requires and relies on attorneys, members of the bar, to not simply follow the law, but uphold its finest principles and ideals, for when lawyers use their law licenses as weapons, as a guise to extort payments for themselves, they are no longer act iing as attorneys, ty are acting as criminals and they will be held responsible for their conduct. i'd now like to invite bill sweeney to the podium. >> thanks. earlier this afternoon, michael avenatti -- >> that was a u.s. attorney for the southern u district of new
york detailing this case that new york now has on michael avenatti, a man who at one point expressed interest in running to be the next president of the united states. a man who represented adult film start daniels, who has reacted to this saying she is saddened, but not shocked by the news of his charges. again, these are two separate cases. it's california and new york and you just heard the details out of new york. let's get into the nitty-gritty. you're a former office there. fdny. so what i'm understanding is this is all with nike. he has a client who's a high school coach and they believe this coach has this information on nike alleging misconduct on behalf of nike employees and if you don't let me do this internal investigation an pay my guy 1 $.5 million, there's going to be a problem. dot, dot, dot. eventually, it's they b obviously expresed they don't want to do this. he says well i can ride off into
the sunset with a cool 22.5 million. they say not so fast. >> one point they go to the fbi in the southern district of new york. if you're going to try to extort someone, don't extort nike. they're pretty savvy. this is an interesting case. i think we saw the u.s. attorney already anticipating that. because two sentences in, he was this was not just aggressive d advocacy. that's going to be michael avenatti's defense here. look, my client had some sort of legal clal. some sort of contractual claim against you, nike, and i offered to come in and do the legal work. yes, demands for high. yes, i used harsh language and was aggressive, but welcome to the real world. this is how business and hard knuckled legal negotiations work and the trick for the prosecutors here is going to show that the use, the threats here were what's called very helpfully, wrongful. welcome to the law. but you have to look at all the different facts and decide did
the cross a line. i think here the prosecutors are going to say he exerted this immense time pressure. he alleged it right when the ncaa tournament was about to start. when the company meeting was about to happen. he threatened not just their profitability, but their market cap. he use ed his own fame. basically says people pay attention to me. and i can really damage you. and the question for a jury maybe will be is that over the line? that's a defensible case though. >> so that is a defensible case. so between the case in new york and the case in california, which make him sweat a tad more. >> i never say that. there's less of a threat out of new york. the california case is really straightforward financial fraud. two aspects to the california case. the more problematic one is the threat of $1.6 million from his client. his client got the settlement. avenatti lied to him and
pocketed the money for himself and paid the client a little bit of it. i don't know how you defend against that. the other people is a garden variety bank fraud. where he inflated his assets, a lot of people living above their means do this. and he got $4 million in lopes that i assume he wouldn't have otherwise. those are first second year type prosecutor cases. that's a straightforward financial and you can do it all on financial documents. >> okay. you are the best. thank you so much. we will have much more on this. also, more on the reaction of the mueller report including why robert mueller told the department of justice three weeks ago and all the unanswered questions. everything from the trump tower meeting to sharing polling data. stand by. you're watching cnn.
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three suicides in just a matter of days. they have shaken two communities that are still grieving. police in new town, connecticut, found the body of jeremy richmond. his daughter was killed in the sandy hook elementary shooting in 2012. richmond died of an apparent suicide inside the building that houses the foundation he dedicated to his daughter and to mental health issues. on saturday, a second parkland, florida student died in an apparent suicide. a name and age haven't been released, but authorities confirm he is a juvenile. this comes just days after another marjory stoneman douglas high school shooting survivor took her own life not long after being diagnosed with ptsd. her mother said she had suffered from survivor's guilty because her best friend was killed in last year's shooting. when you look at the last 20 years, suicide rates have
increased in nearly every state. in 25 states, the rate is up by 30%. underscoring the importance of having a conversation about this very issue. dr. kelly is with me. the founder of the center for suicide risk assessment and thank you so much for being here. and having a difficult but incredibly important conversation. you know, when you heard that one child then another took their own lives after 17 people were murdered in parkland and especially after you helped lead the event there last year and now the sandy hook dad, though not connected, how do you handle this? >> well, brooke, i have to say sadly, you know, these occurrences aren't surprising. but the very good new ss that we can work very hard to prevent them. let me start by setting the context of what, how suicide is of crisis proportions already
for youth and their communities. did you know it's the number one cause of death in adolescent girls across the globe. second leading cause of death in 10 to 24-year-olds. kills more people than car accidents, more firemen than fire. we can prevent this. what do we know that we need to do? you know that 50% of suicides see their primary care doctor the month before they die. >> i read that you wrote that. how is that, when you go to your doctor, you make this point, our society doesn't think of mental illness say cancer or heart disease, but when you u see your doctor, what kinds of questions do they need to be asking their patients? >> well, what they have started to ask and what they need to ask is you know, about suicidal ideation and behavior. something called the columbia protocol. a simple set of questions that can be in everybody's hands. so we can identify the people
who need help. before we didn't know who to worry about and what questions to ask. i wanteded to say that many add les enters show up to the emergency didn't aren't there for psych yatic reasons. we know that even that's not enough. the undersecretary wrote an urgent memo that we must go beyond the doctor's office. we must put it in efb's hands. the coach, the teacher, the peer, bf they ever, if they ever get to the doctor. that's how we'll find people who are suffering and connect them to the care they need to prevent these tragedies. >> we have prepped a graphic. throw it up on the screen. these are the questions. this is the columbia protocol. what not just anyone can be asking. so can you just run through starting with number one, have you wished you were dead or wished you could go to sleep and not wake up. what are those key questions
that any parent, anyone watching right now can ask of someone they love. >> can and should. so have you wished you were dead or actually have thoughts of killing yourself and if that's yes, have you thought of how? have you had these thoughts and had action on them or worked out details? around very importantly, have you started to do anything, prepared to do anything to end your life like write a note or collect pills. we were never asking u about all these serious suicidal behavior before these simple questions. if they say they had some entension, that's where risk jumps like 50% and again, when people are actually, when people with with suffering, they want to be saved. they want to be asked. so it's very important to treat this like blood pressure. if you, so we can identify people who actually need help. >> yes. i'm talking to ryan who you know
well. the walk up foundation. we'll talk to him next hour about signs of progress, but thank you so much. we've had the suicide prevention hot line up on the screen. thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you, brooke. grateful to be here. z >> thaupg. nearly two-year investigation, it is over, but even with the end of the investigation, despite attorney general bill barr's four-page summary to congress, we are left with so many questions. questions letter doesn't begin to answer. let's dig into that with garrett. nice to see you. you wrote this piece for wired and the headline is mueller says no collusion. barr raises a million questions. so let's just dive into some of your questions starting with there was a lot of talk about trump's former campaign chairman. you know, handing over the polling data to an alleged russian spy what's the story there? >> yeah, you know, the four-page barr report on the mueller
report has left us really no closer to answering any of the thousand or million unanswered questions that bob mueller left us. sort of these puzzle pieces scattered around that we don't really know how they fit together. and chief among them might be this question about this seemingly suspicious handover of highly detailed polling data from paul manafort to kilimnick, this operative with ties to russian intelligence, manafort's long time ukrainian business partner, which remember is a fact that bob mueller has never told the public. we only know this because paul manafort's lawyers can't redakt documents correctly. and so this is, this is something that bob mueller obviously finds significant, but has never told us and we don't have any understanding of how this fits into any of the larger picture of either paul manafort's activities or the trump campaign's activities during the 2016 election.
>> what about questions about trump tower moscow? >> yeah, i mean again, this meeting over the course of this spring of 2016, we see paul, we see michael cohen doing this extensive business deal negotiations directly at times with the office of president putin in russia. the deal falls apart on the same day that it becomes public that the dnc has been hacked by russia. and you know, again, this is something that we saw michael cohen lie about to kopg. this is what we pleaded guilty to and we have no understanding of sort of how and whether this fits into the broader picture, even though we know that donald trump was kept up to date about this, that don jr. and ivanka were kept to date on this. and that you know, for more than
two years, donald trump himself lied to the american public about this. >> you also talk about the clues that mueller sprinkled all these bread crumbs in his previous court filings yet now, no resolution? >> yeah, and this is why i think you're going to see democrats continue to really push for the release of the full report. you know, we don't even know how long or comprehensive the report really is. but you know, we've seen mueller seemingly draw our attention to these very specific and unnecessarily specifically worded phrases in many of his court documents, including the famous bread crumb where he said after donald trump made his russia if you're listening comment on the campaign trail, that fwactually the russian gru military intelligence hackers returned to their office that